tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post1531039370596012351..comments2024-03-28T17:50:17.529+00:00Comments on Wargaming Miscellany: London Bridge and Borough MarketRobert (Bob) Corderyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-69547210344868777842017-06-08T07:02:48.302+01:002017-06-08T07:02:48.302+01:00Chris (Chris Johnson),
There is no need to apolog...Chris (Chris Johnson),<br /><br />There is no need to apologise on behalf of your country for the things that your President - and his immediate entourage - has said or tweeted over recent days. I am sure that most people in the UK are fully aware of his apparent 'limitations' in certain areas. As to those who voted for him ... well I think that we are also aware that sometimes the choices one has as to whom one can vote for does come down to choosing the least worst option rather than the best.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-80796204133667357232017-06-08T02:45:42.908+01:002017-06-08T02:45:42.908+01:00And just when we thought it couldn't be worse,...And just when we thought it couldn't be worse, President Dimbulb tweets what is on his excuse for a mind, insulting everyone in sight. I'm certainly not in a position to apologize on behalf of my country, but I will anyway: I am so sorry this jerk occupies the White House. Please don't judge us all by this idiot; even the people who voted for him did so more out of pique and gullibility than evil intent. <br /><br />America counts itself fortunate that the UK is and will forever remain both her best friend, and a beacon of decency and courage in a troubled world.<br /><br />Chris JohnsonChrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05091296131481416326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-50660450423973775602017-06-06T08:12:04.658+01:002017-06-06T08:12:04.658+01:00Nobby,
I just wish that what I had written was no...Nobby,<br /><br />I just wish that what I had written was not true.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-65723862761526743892017-06-06T07:20:18.894+01:002017-06-06T07:20:18.894+01:00Your last sentence is terribly true as seen by our...Your last sentence is terribly true as seen by our Western eyes, and here they are among us.nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552663142940856622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-20148090698896205032017-06-05T22:57:00.661+01:002017-06-05T22:57:00.661+01:00Nobby,
I don't know if these particular terro...Nobby,<br /><br />I don't know if these particular terrorists were as dedicated to the rituals and faith of Islam as you state in your comment, but I am willing to believe that they were. I am sure that they believed that their actions were justified by the teachings they have absorbed from certain imams.<br /><br />That said, I still think that they had a twisted and distorted view of the world that was fed by unscrupulous religious leaders.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-51878616290707251462017-06-05T22:29:12.869+01:002017-06-05T22:29:12.869+01:00These are not casual religionists.
They are obser...These are not casual religionists. <br />They are observant muslims doing prayer five times a day, keeping the dietary and hygiene rules and attending the mosque.<br />These are no mean feats and show a level of dedication beyond most people's, of any faiths, ability.<br />They sincerely believe that their actions are justified by the Koran. Some imamns tell them they are correct in that belief.nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552663142940856622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-69076830359803313722017-06-05T22:05:08.705+01:002017-06-05T22:05:08.705+01:00Geordie an Exiled FoG,
Thanks very much for your ...Geordie an Exiled FoG,<br /><br />Thanks very much for your comment of support. I agree with the sentiment you report in your comment; this was an act of terrorism perpetrated by people with a twisted and perverted view of the world, who tried to 'justify' their actions in the name of a religion that they purported to believe in.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-13079452709333453802017-06-05T21:23:55.118+01:002017-06-05T21:23:55.118+01:00Cheers Bob,
Where I work is very multi-cultural
...Cheers Bob, <br />Where I work is very multi-cultural <br />The sentiment was that these recent acts were terrorism by terrorists with the false pretence of religion <br />:(Geordie an Exiled FoGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01002743056274635657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-28839988915088896962017-06-05T10:01:52.328+01:002017-06-05T10:01:52.328+01:00Archduke Piccolo,
My understanding is that most M...Archduke Piccolo,<br /><br />My understanding is that most Muslims still regard Christians and Jews as 'People of the Book' that share a common Abrahamic origin.<br /><br />Any country's foreign policies must have an internal impact, and to deny that is at best disingenuous. Even a cursory understanding of history supports this contention.<br /><br />I can see the validity of the quote from Benjamin Franklin. In time of war - and many people feel that we are in the midst of a low-level war in the UK - there is an expectation that individual liberties need to be sacrificed to ensure an end to that war. The problem arises when the war is over and the loss of those liberties becomes normal and generally acceptable.<br /><br />During my travels I have seem the impact of some of the measures countries have introduced to protect their national security. In Morocco the Muslim members of our ship's crew were not allowed ashore to visit a mosque because they could no guarantee that they were not supporters of radical Islamists. In Croatia no crew members from the Indian subcontinent were allowed out of the dock area without a visa, even though they carried internationally-accepted identity documentation. And in pre-Trump USA the Homeland Security staff in Immigration treated everyone as if they were a potential threat to national security, and acted in a very high-handed and rude way.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-69197760832584607462017-06-05T09:26:14.363+01:002017-06-05T09:26:14.363+01:00Fitz-Badger,
Thanks for your comment.
I just wis...Fitz-Badger,<br /><br />Thanks for your comment.<br /><br />I just wish that I didn't have to write blog entries like this.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-3946897527421842392017-06-05T09:23:54.402+01:002017-06-05T09:23:54.402+01:00Nobby,
I remember it well. In the 1950s many of t...Nobby,<br /><br />I remember it well. In the 1950s many of the warding staff were veterans of the First and Second World Wars, and knew a lot about the exhibits, in some case actually having taken part in the operations depicted and used the weapons that were on display. They were only too pleased to look after and inform a young child who was tottering around the museum on their own.<br /><br />Whereas the modern museum is more child friendly and accessible, it seems to have lost that important connection between the staff and the exhibits, and with it the connection between the exhibits and the visitors. Some years ago I took a young relative around the IWM, describing the exhibits as we went around. At one point I was asked by a family if the 'tour' I was taking around was free and where they could book. They were amazed when I told them that I wasn't a member of staff and was just a visitor like them.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-24055615373733161612017-06-05T08:55:05.816+01:002017-06-05T08:55:05.816+01:00The Muslim attitude towards Christians and Jews wa...The Muslim attitude towards Christians and Jews was that they were 'People of the Book' - i.e. the Bible. Although they set a higher store upon the Quran, they still regard, as I understand it, the Bible as a holy book. At least, this was the attitude of Islam in its early years.<br /><br />The tolerance of early times was beaten out of them by the Crusades, the impact of which remains, in Palestine at least, to this very day. <br /><br />The UK government is denying that it is its foreign policy that has generated these terrorist attacks at home, and, one observes, they appear to be using them as an excuse to drive further inroads into the personal liberties of British citizens.<br /><br />I take as my yardstick of government policy a comment often attributed to Benjamin Franklin:<br /><br />"Who would give up freedom for a little security deserves neither the freedom nor the security." <br /><br />Even more contemptible, in my view, are those who, to obtain security for themselves, would trade away the freedoms of others. Such has happened in the US, in Australia, and even in my own country.<br />Archduke Piccolohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15533325665451889661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-24497712868876196582017-06-05T03:46:49.259+01:002017-06-05T03:46:49.259+01:00Well said, Bob.
My sympathies and condolences go ...Well said, Bob.<br /><br />My sympathies and condolences go out to those affected by these terrible acts of violence. I have been to London Bridge and Borough Market, and was sad to see this hit those places.Fitz-Badgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15510866929782142007noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-10269261929206503722017-06-05T02:39:06.020+01:002017-06-05T02:39:06.020+01:00Do you remember the long racks of short and long a... Do you remember the long racks of short and long arms. Each one neatly labelled? Also, there were attendants who could tell you about the items on display.<br />I go nowadays and recognise it is more modern child 'friendly' but I do wonder if they learn as much from it than we did.nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552663142940856622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-46310071064055726072017-06-04T23:31:40.783+01:002017-06-04T23:31:40.783+01:00Jon Meech,
I know the area where you live very we...Jon Meech,<br /><br />I know the area where you live very well. My maternal family lived in and around the Waterloo area, and I was born in the General Lying-In Hospital just at the southern end of Westminster Bridge. As a child I used to wander the corridors of the old IWM, and I am sure that is where my interest in military history and wargaming first started.<br /><br />I agree with your analysis that these attacks are being made in the name of a religion by people who have a twisted and distorted vision of the world, and whose sole goal seems to be to inflict pain and terror on the innocent. May they rot in whatever hell they believe in, whilst the rest of us just carry on living our normal lives as best we can.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-44641605648106267432017-06-04T22:52:40.336+01:002017-06-04T22:52:40.336+01:00Bob, I appreciate your recognition of the recent a...Bob, I appreciate your recognition of the recent attacks in our city and Manchester. My day job means that I have colleagues and friends in Manchester. Personally, I live near the Imperial War Museum, so Westminster and Borough are pretty much my neighborhood. I am in both places quite frequently, the attacks have not and will not stop me going about my daily business, but I will be more vigilant. Interns of the other comments, I feel these attacks are little to do with religion or faith. They are just used as an excuse for twisted people to commit acts of terror. History certainly shows that Religion is frequently perverted by evil individuals for their own ends. Jon Meechhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13382622116023780186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-26424543326644850172017-06-04T20:45:22.610+01:002017-06-04T20:45:22.610+01:00Whiskers,
Your friend's saying makes a lot of...Whiskers,<br /><br />Your friend's saying makes a lot of sense. One only has to look at conflicts like the Taiping Rebellion - the origins of which lay in a militant religious movement - which resulted in at least 30,000,000 dead (and some estimate it could be three times that number!) to see the truth in what he said.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-30576033736067283002017-06-04T20:33:07.757+01:002017-06-04T20:33:07.757+01:00A very dear, and sadly deceased, friend of mine us...A very dear, and sadly deceased, friend of mine used to say: "In six days God created the world. On the seventh He rested, and the Devil created religion".<br />It's a sad fact that more people have been deliberately killed in the name of God than for any other reason.Whiskershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12820800369799871532noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-27806996160221421472017-06-04T19:50:21.275+01:002017-06-04T19:50:21.275+01:00Nigel Drury,
I hope that you enjoy your beef ... ...Nigel Drury,<br /><br />I hope that you enjoy your beef ... and that you return to Borough Market again in the near future.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-2518492555250783882017-06-04T19:16:41.530+01:002017-06-04T19:16:41.530+01:00This evening we'll be eating the beef that we ...This evening we'll be eating the beef that we bought in Borough Market on Friday after a pleasant afternoon there. Looking forward to visiting again as soon we can. Excellent cheese too.Nigel Druryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07635742503102210394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-82463194547823227232017-06-04T17:39:55.723+01:002017-06-04T17:39:55.723+01:00Nobby,
Yes, those quotes appear to be contradicto...Nobby,<br /><br />Yes, those quotes appear to be contradictory, but I think that you understand that in the second quote I was trying to point out that few religious groups have not included members who have used violence to further or impose their religious beliefs.<br /><br />As the Bible I used as a child was the King James version, I was quoting from my memory of what it said. As it is a translation it is bound to contain inaccuracies, and I accept that this might well be the case.<br /><br />As I wrote in a comment some time ago, I think that Islam is in the throws of its own internal reformation, and what we are seeing is not that dissimilar to a modern version of what happened in Europe during the Reformation, with various factions fighting for the supremacy of their particulat version of Islam.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-72433992945304950592017-06-04T16:18:04.035+01:002017-06-04T16:18:04.035+01:00"t is not a religion that kills people; it is..."t is not a religion that kills people; it is people who kill people." and "No religion has clean hands." Isn't this contradictory?<br /><br />If you check out the early Hebrew of God made man in his own image you will find that isn't what was written. Literal takes on the Bible and especially on the various early English translations are wide of the mark. <br />Judge each religion by its key points.<br />There are two laws of the greatest importance in Christianity: Love the Lord your God and Love your neighbour as yourself. Find similar in islam? James James above has it right. <br />Islam is not a religion of peace. It has had no renaissance and it has not developed beyond its raw, and questionable, roots.nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552663142940856622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-86884616271089536302017-06-04T16:14:40.116+01:002017-06-04T16:14:40.116+01:00Nobby,
Interesting. I understood that Allah was a...Nobby,<br /><br />Interesting. I understood that <i>Allah</i> was a diminutive of <i>El Elohim</i>, the Arabic for 'the God', and at the term pre-dated the birth of Mohammed.<br /><br />We live and learn.<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-36723866562329615702017-06-04T16:03:13.534+01:002017-06-04T16:03:13.534+01:00The name Allah does not appear until 6 or 7th cent...The name Allah does not appear until 6 or 7th century AD along with Mohammed and his hordes. There is a small possibility that it equates to Elohim but the name of God for Jews and Christians is Yahweh. Islam may claim the same root, it gives credence, but it doesn't.nobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02552663142940856622noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-51408911855149069222017-06-04T14:58:59.845+01:002017-06-04T14:58:59.845+01:00Gonsalvo,
As ever the voice of reason and sense!
...Gonsalvo,<br /><br />As ever the voice of reason and sense!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.com