tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post3759408970724125765..comments2024-03-29T06:05:14.320+00:00Comments on Wargaming Miscellany: Something for the weekendRobert (Bob) Corderyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-26654264958570474182012-05-19T09:19:45.940+01:002012-05-19T09:19:45.940+01:00Kaptain Kobold,
The rules as they are at the mome...Kaptain Kobold,<br /><br />The rules as they are at the moment incorporate a version of the MEMOIR '44 terrain rules. Units firing into woods etc., reduce the number of Combat Dice they throw by one, and Units in fieldworks ignore the first 'Retreat' and 'loss of strength value' Combat Dice results.<br /><br />How this will work with Elite and/or Poor Units has yet to be tested!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-6995603596443557142012-05-19T09:05:18.542+01:002012-05-19T09:05:18.542+01:00The Memoir '44 terrain rules are worth pinchin...The Memoir '44 terrain rules are worth pinching - lose dice for woods, buildings and so forth, with improved terrain such as fortifications allowing you to ignore a retreat (decide how you want to incorporate that with elite troops :) ) The downside is that the dice reduction effect doesn't have much granularity - 1 dice is OK, but losing 2 is quite a lot, so you can't really differentiate between different levels of terrain protection. You tend to lose the classic Hard Cover/Soft Cover effect.Kaptain Koboldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17082772546044655044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-73342747470104887642012-05-19T08:33:26.326+01:002012-05-19T08:33:26.326+01:00David Crook,
I must admit that Kaptain Kobold'...David Crook,<br /><br />I must admit that Kaptain Kobold's suggestion is a better one than mine, and I will probably use it in preference to my own proposal during any play-tests that I manage to stage this weekend.<br /><br />As to the woods and BUA ... well all non-Artillery Units firing into woods and BUAs already suffer a penalty of throwing one fewer Combat Dice so I wonder if another change is necessary?<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-46295268343785002582012-05-19T08:19:13.436+01:002012-05-19T08:19:13.436+01:00Hi Bob (and Kaptain K),
I think that makes a lot ...Hi Bob (and Kaptain K),<br /><br />I think that makes a lot of sense to have elite/vet units ignore the first flag entirely but that any subsequent flags are taken as either a retreat or a strength point loss. I am thinking that may be a viable work around for units in woods and BUA as well.<br /><br />Either way I shall be testsing a few variations on a theme myself this weekend so I am sure that something satisfactory will come out in the wash!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />DCDavid Crookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02497436789811496047noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-33356950654004527272012-05-19T08:03:17.828+01:002012-05-19T08:03:17.828+01:00Kaptain Kobold,
The proposed changes came about a...Kaptain Kobold,<br /><br />The proposed changes came about as a result of the discussions that I had with David Crook, who felt that the combat results for Elite, Normal, and Poor Units were too similar. (He also wanted to include the option that Units could put out skirmishers who would not be as easy to hit.) My proposed solutions to his concerns were simpler than the mechanisms he suggested. They are not set in stone; they are merely some proposals that can be tested.<br /><br />Your suggestion that Elite Units ignore the first 'Retreat' result is probably a better one than mine, where they ignore it altogether ... so don't be surprised if I 'steal' it from you!<br /><br />All the best,<br /><br />BobRobert (Bob) Corderyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13109130990434792266noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6933470253715910366.post-75789333646381987922012-05-19T03:58:17.510+01:002012-05-19T03:58:17.510+01:00I'm not sure about Elite units being immune to...I'm not sure about Elite units being immune to retreats altogether - even the best units retreated sometimes. Could they not just ignore the first retreat; the same effect hedgehogs/entrenchments give in Memoir '44?<br /><br />I wondered why you felt the mechanism of giving elite/poor units more or less figures or hits wasn't adequate.Kaptain Koboldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17082772546044655044noreply@blogger.com